I have girl parts, but I've never been good about sticking to the roles assigned to me as a female--I'm a 23-year-old tomboy. I also cross-dress a lot (which, I know, is hard for a woman to do, but I will actively shop in the men's section).
One of my old roommates, Addie, is a transvestite who, while being female and feeling female and liking being female also gets immense joy at being mistaken for a boy. She considers herself andro (hence that option).
Yeah, I'm very gender skewed. I was born a girl/woman but am much more comfortable wearing men's clothes, doing guy things. But, I like girls and guys. So, yeah. I'm both and I like both.
Well....this really made me think. I've got girl parts, but I've been a tomboy since i was about 10. I've thought about getting a TG surgery since i was about 13, but i don't think i could actually handle it, after all the research i've done about the actual surgery and what it looks like afterwards, how you deal with it. i'm probably never going to go through with it, but sometimes i still feel that whole "phantom limb" thing with the genitals i've never actually had. and this is a lot more in-depth than i was planning to go so......i'm gonna stop now :X
Honestly? I don't have a fucking clue. I wear guys clothes, have short hair and get confused for a guy almost everytime I'm in public. And I enjoy it. I've just never given it much thought as to what to call it.
Sometimes I'd like to be a guy, but just for blowjobs.
Cause I like being a girl the rest of the time and full-on gay sex doesn't really appeal to me (in person, not in ficiton), but blowjobs seem like they would be awesome.
I'm - fucked up, I guess. I couldn't ever be mistaken for a guy; I am very, very feminine looking. I have tits of porn star proportions (and i don't mean that in a "look at me, i am awesome" way - i mean that in a "fucking christ, they need to stop growing, like now, because the rest of me is definitely done growing, i am twenty five, for chrissakes" kind of way). I also have a small waist and child-bearing hips, and kind of a belly, and pretty much all that together makes me unable to wear men's clothes (which i would do otherwise). When I was little (and up until I went to school, and even then it took a while), I referred to myself as male - had a name, and everything. Always dressed up as a musketeer for costumed holidays (I had a bit of a soldier obsession when I was young). When I was something like seven, I drew this giant picture for my mom, which had a princess and a knight on bended knee handing her a ring and a bouquet of flowers (well, they were all stick figures, but i labeled them), and, natch, she was like, aww, look, you drew you and a handsome prince, and I was like, no, mommy, that's me, and i am going to marry the princess. Mommy thought it was funny. Me, not so much. I hate pretty much all traditionally feminine activities, except for cooking, which I personally don't consider feminine. Cooking is a big manly man thing - look at me, I have fire in this pan and I am totally pouring cognac in there :) As far as relationships go, I deal very differently with men and women. I've always been very 'masculine' with my girlfriends. I am not using 'butch' for a specific reason, that being, I don't really think of myself as a woman when I am with a woman. I have to admit, I am a fucking awful boyfriend, though, the kind that never calls and never writes and you don't want to take home to meet anyone. I've dated more men than I have women, and I am in a serious relationship with a man right now. I can definitely say that it's due to the fact that I don't get along with women on an emotional level. Guys make sense, girls don't. My boy and I are very alike (apparently, people also think we look alike; we've been mistaken for siblings, although we don't see it). However, I am definitely not the man in this relationship, and I don't really want to be. Not my place to be the man in a relationship with a man. Like I said, fucked up. Wow, that was a long-ass comment, and went way too in depth describing someone who is a totally random stranger to you. That's what happens when I am up in the middle of the night reading the f-list. Sorry.
Please forgive my ignorance, but what is Two-Spirit? Being both at once?
I'm female (and not only that, a housewife), identify as female, and generally love being female (cramps being one massive exception), but in that way life has of confusing things, I'm a bit of a tomboy and eschew most typical feminine trappings and preoccupations - never wear makeup, rarely wear dresses or jewelry, hold up the childcare end of the housewife bargain much better than the housekeeping end, etc. Also, though I'm about 99% straight, as far as I can tell, there are about three women (one acquaintence, one famous person, and one fictional person) I'd do without even needing to consider it, and a few more that wouldn't take much persuasion.
Two-Spirit is usually a Native man or woman who is transgendered. But not always though; occasionally it is used to describe someone who identifies with their biological gender and yet is same-sex attracted (lesbian, gay, occasionally inter-sex).
And the 99% thing is very interesting when you have other little-known facts in hand. Did you know that not only is 1 in 10 people "gay" but only 1 in 10 are "straight"? If you stop ten people walking down the street and ask them who you would "go gay/straight for" eight of the people will have at least one person, one of the people will be a firm Kinsey 6 who really has no attraction at all to anyone of the opposite gender and one will be a firm Kinsey 0 who has no attraction to anyone of the same gender. 80% of the population falls somewhere in the middle, usually at that "three or four people" thing you have.
If I somehow offend you with this question I apologize. You say you feel both male and female and I'm curious as to whether it's a constant thing. What I mean is I want to know if you feel male and female at the same time or if you sometimes feel male and sometimes feel female.
You sound a bit like another friend of mine, Aiden. He's a non-op FtM who plans on not having surgery because he's done research too and has heard about the bad kind of doctors who fuck the surgeries on purpose.
See, I was tempted to put "pansexual" up there too but didn't because I'm stuck in the mindset of using it to describe sexuality instead of gender (I'm female who IDs as pansexual-asexual).
You might be andro. My friend Addie is andro. She was born female, identifies as female, is comfortable female, and is a transvestite who enjoys it immensely when people call her "sir" or mistake her for a boy (because she looks about thirteen and could never be mistaken for an adult male).
I can definitely believe that only 1 in 10 people are genuinely, 100% straight. I've been trying to figure out who my husband's "three or four" are because I can't believe that there's really NO ONE. But I'm working against some seriously strong cultural conditioning, so the most I've ever gotten out of him is that he thinks Jared is more "classically handsome" than Jensen. Which I disagree with, but whatever. We have different taste in women too.
no offense at all. I am both at once, mostly. I've worked very hard to let my male or masculine attributes co-exist with my feminine ones. They just are and I'm okay with that. I have a female body. There's no changing that. I mense and I gave birth and those are just totally female. While I dress as a man, hate chick flick moments and am very solution oriented. This is a very simple answer the the actuality is much more complex. I just try to let my facets play out as they will without catagorizing too much. I think, for me, it's the catagorizing that drove me crazy. I'm just a glorious bundle of extraordinary contradictions. Does that answer your question? wede
It is a lot of fun to get mistaken for a boy. Even moreso when I'm at work and wearing a freaking nametag that clearly says Amy, because it shows how much people really pay attention. I like being female (most days) but I just wish it was a little less... obvious. I mean, I buy too-small bras to try and make it less obvious that I'm not a guy. I'm far from being the most feminine almost-girl out there. It's like I can relate to girls, but I have the mindset of a guy. I don't do pink or makeup or "ew, dirt! Gross!" I go hunting (sort of, never shot anything) and mud bogging with the quad after it rains. Which is almost disgustingly dirty but SO MUCH FUN.
And as far as sexual orientation goes... HA. I'm so far beyond confused. I like guys mostly, but then there's always a bunch of girls that slip through cracks. Part of the reason I'm so obsessed with Jo. Alona Tal is hot and amazing and talented and listening to one of those songs where she sings in hebrew makes me go all gjakfgbhnkab. She's just the cutest thing ever.
Yeaaah.... See sometimes I feel like a nut, sometimes i don't, if you know what I mean. There are sometimes I just want to do anything but live in this body, and then there are sometimes that I'm actually relatively happy with it. I dunno, I just never really make up my mind one way or anoter about it. (that's me in the icon btw, if you didn't know. my hair's brown now though)
Well, you know me. (shrug) I have girl bits and I'm (super) comfortable with them (except when they're gory, we're out of coffee, and people are being evil with the 'that time of the month' jokes, because then I wish I had a dick so I could bitch-slap them with it, though that might hurt in retrospect) but I've always considered personality genderless. We (USA-ians especially) tend to identify certain aspects of personalities with a gender (gentle = feminine, aggressive = masculine, etc), and I consider that a load of bull. People = people, and gender roles are pretty much defined by society and our upbringing. How many people out there do you think are gay, but have convinced themselves that they're not because they don't fit the stereotype? So while I identify as female in the genitalia, I'm consciously staying away from identifying gender with personality.
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however, I tend to use the term pansexual to describe myself now...
and I love to tell people I'm a gay man trapped in a woman's body... it's fits me ;-)
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Cause I like being a girl the rest of the time and full-on gay sex doesn't really appeal to me (in person, not in ficiton), but blowjobs seem like they would be awesome.
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I hate pretty much all traditionally feminine activities, except for cooking, which I personally don't consider feminine. Cooking is a big manly man thing - look at me, I have fire in this pan and I am totally pouring cognac in there :)
As far as relationships go, I deal very differently with men and women. I've always been very 'masculine' with my girlfriends. I am not using 'butch' for a specific reason, that being, I don't really think of myself as a woman when I am with a woman. I have to admit, I am a fucking awful boyfriend, though, the kind that never calls and never writes and you don't want to take home to meet anyone.
I've dated more men than I have women, and I am in a serious relationship with a man right now. I can definitely say that it's due to the fact that I don't get along with women on an emotional level. Guys make sense, girls don't. My boy and I are very alike (apparently, people also think we look alike; we've been mistaken for siblings, although we don't see it). However, I am definitely not the man in this relationship, and I don't really want to be. Not my place to be the man in a relationship with a man. Like I said, fucked up.
Wow, that was a long-ass comment, and went way too in depth describing someone who is a totally random stranger to you. That's what happens when I am up in the middle of the night reading the f-list. Sorry.
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[Though I must confess to prostate envy.]
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I'm female (and not only that, a housewife), identify as female, and generally love being female (cramps being one massive exception), but in that way life has of confusing things, I'm a bit of a tomboy and eschew most typical feminine trappings and preoccupations - never wear makeup, rarely wear dresses or jewelry, hold up the childcare end of the housewife bargain much better than the housekeeping end, etc. Also, though I'm about 99% straight, as far as I can tell, there are about three women (one acquaintence, one famous person, and one fictional person) I'd do without even needing to consider it, and a few more that wouldn't take much persuasion.
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HA!
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And the 99% thing is very interesting when you have other little-known facts in hand. Did you know that not only is 1 in 10 people "gay" but only 1 in 10 are "straight"? If you stop ten people walking down the street and ask them who you would "go gay/straight for" eight of the people will have at least one person, one of the people will be a firm Kinsey 6 who really has no attraction at all to anyone of the opposite gender and one will be a firm Kinsey 0 who has no attraction to anyone of the same gender. 80% of the population falls somewhere in the middle, usually at that "three or four people" thing you have.
Sociology classes FTW!
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And don't worry about the long comment, this is the kind of discussion that often calls for long and involved comments.
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I can definitely believe that only 1 in 10 people are genuinely, 100% straight. I've been trying to figure out who my husband's "three or four" are because I can't believe that there's really NO ONE. But I'm working against some seriously strong cultural conditioning, so the most I've ever gotten out of him is that he thinks Jared is more "classically handsome" than Jensen. Which I disagree with, but whatever. We have different taste in women too.
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wede
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And as far as sexual orientation goes... HA. I'm so far beyond confused. I like guys mostly, but then there's always a bunch of girls that slip through cracks. Part of the reason I'm so obsessed with Jo. Alona Tal is hot and amazing and talented and listening to one of those songs where she sings in hebrew makes me go all gjakfgbhnkab. She's just the cutest thing ever.
Wow, that got to be longer than I intended. Heh.
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I also join
Sorry if that's incoherent. My second drink of the night burned someone's nose hairs off, so I may not make much sense.