John is an EVIL son of a btich: he totally used to decimate them. That's why the boys never liked him to get involved, he would "Tech them a lesson."

There was this one time when John managed to get the hot water to their motel room cut off, the boys still aren't sure how he did that. And on more than one occassion they only kinda know about he'd gotten a room with two singles instead of two queens and watched in amusement as his boys tried to both fit on it without killing each other in their sleep.